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	<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 22:59:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on openSUSE Board Meeting Minutes, June 3 2009 by Interested</title>
		<link>http://zonker.opensuse.org/2009/07/03/opensuse-board-meeting-minutes-june-3-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-855</link>
		<dc:creator>Interested</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 16:23:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When will be more information available about the openSUSE conference?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When will be more information available about the openSUSE conference?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Stephen Shaw has been appointed as openSUSE Board Member by Stephen Shaw</title>
		<link>http://zonker.opensuse.org/2009/06/11/stephen-shawn-has-been-appointed-as-opensuse-board-member/comment-page-1/#comment-854</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen Shaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 22:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just for the record, its Stephen Shaw (without the n ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just for the record, its Stephen Shaw (without the n <img src='http://zonker.opensuse.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Ark Linux is becoming the first third-party distro other than openSUSE to adopt ZYpp as its package manager. by j.eng</title>
		<link>http://zonker.opensuse.org/2009/06/02/ark-linux-is-becoming-the-first-third-party-distro-other-than-opensuse-to-adopt-zypp-as-its-package-manager/comment-page-1/#comment-853</link>
		<dc:creator>j.eng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 10:14:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's the only sane choice:
* smart claimed that apt did not find all updates (due to its algorithm)
* then, smart is terribly slow (the solve stage taking &gt;45 mins on an older 933 MHz machine)
* and overly memory-intensive (see Duncan's blog post)
* referring to "breaking the interpreter" in the Ark post: it has happened to me; worth noting that you have to upgrade python (when SUSE moved 2.4-&gt;2.6) and its modules at once (but of course you could not have known that before, because dependencies were missing)
* zypper seems the be the only one to consider a vendor change a hard barrier, protecting against 3rd-repo packages sneaking in (IMHO even more important than any of the other points)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s the only sane choice:<br />
* smart claimed that apt did not find all updates (due to its algorithm)<br />
* then, smart is terribly slow (the solve stage taking &gt;45 mins on an older 933 MHz machine)<br />
* and overly memory-intensive (see Duncan&#8217;s blog post)<br />
* referring to &#8220;breaking the interpreter&#8221; in the Ark post: it has happened to me; worth noting that you have to upgrade python (when SUSE moved 2.4-&gt;2.6) and its modules at once (but of course you could not have known that before, because dependencies were missing)<br />
* zypper seems the be the only one to consider a vendor change a hard barrier, protecting against 3rd-repo packages sneaking in (IMHO even more important than any of the other points)</p>
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		<title>Comment on iFolder: Come and Get It! by db</title>
		<link>http://zonker.opensuse.org/2009/04/03/ifolder-come-and-get-it/comment-page-1/#comment-848</link>
		<dc:creator>db</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 21:08:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Novell announced and released iFolder (June 2001) before Apple had an iPod (Oct 2001).  So just maybe everything doesn't really revolve around what Apple does.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Novell announced and released iFolder (June 2001) before Apple had an iPod (Oct 2001).  So just maybe everything doesn&#8217;t really revolve around what Apple does.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Captioned SLED Videos by JGJones</title>
		<link>http://zonker.opensuse.org/2009/04/15/closed-captioned-sled-videos/comment-page-1/#comment-846</link>
		<dc:creator>JGJones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 00:05:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not sure if you do trackbacks, so I've written a short response to this over &lt;a href rel="nofollow"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; on my blog.

Thanks, this is awesome and very much appericated!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not sure if you do trackbacks, so I&#8217;ve written a short response to this over <a href rel="nofollow">here</a> on my blog.</p>
<p>Thanks, this is awesome and very much appericated!</p>
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		<title>Comment on iFolder: Come and Get It! by foldingathome</title>
		<link>http://zonker.opensuse.org/2009/04/03/ifolder-come-and-get-it/comment-page-1/#comment-845</link>
		<dc:creator>foldingathome</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 08:49:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;folder

It is called directory.

&gt;iFolder

.oO( youFolder ) .oO( iDirectory ) .oO( wtf does everyone need to use Apple-like names? )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;folder</p>
<p>It is called directory.</p>
<p>&gt;iFolder</p>
<p>.oO( youFolder ) .oO( iDirectory ) .oO( wtf does everyone need to use Apple-like names? )</p>
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		<title>Comment on LinuxFest Northwest: 10 Years?! See You There? by Rikki Kite</title>
		<link>http://zonker.opensuse.org/2009/04/14/linuxfest-northwest-10-years-see-you-there/comment-page-1/#comment-844</link>
		<dc:creator>Rikki Kite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 17:23:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>See you there! Stop by the Linux Pro booth and we'll give you an Maddog-autographed copy. ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See you there! Stop by the Linux Pro booth and we&#8217;ll give you an Maddog-autographed copy. <img src='http://zonker.opensuse.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on iFolder: Come and Get It! by Jehzeel Laurente</title>
		<link>http://zonker.opensuse.org/2009/04/03/ifolder-come-and-get-it/comment-page-1/#comment-843</link>
		<dc:creator>Jehzeel Laurente</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Apr 2009 21:56:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is a great new open suse software! wooooooooot!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is a great new open suse software! wooooooooot!</p>
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		<title>Comment on openSUSE Reference Card? by Lars</title>
		<link>http://zonker.opensuse.org/2009/04/06/opensuse-reference-card/comment-page-1/#comment-842</link>
		<dc:creator>Lars</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 20:23:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As mentioned in another comment already: what about a Quick Start telling people where they can get what they want? ;-)

For example:
* apparmor.opensuse.org
* bugzilla.novell.com
* crashdb.opensuse.org
* education.opensuse.org
* forums.opensuse.org
* lists.opensuse.org
* lizards.opensuse.org
* news.opensuse.org
* software.opensuse.org
* www.opensuse.org
* zonker.opensuse.org
* ...

Another example:
* How to find apparmor profiles?
* How to get updates for their distribution?
* How to get support?
* How to get the latest (KDE/GNOME/whatever) software?
* How to find/subscribe to a mailinglist?
* How to find support in the forums?
* How to become an openSUSE member?
* How to join/talk to people in IRC (channels?)?
* ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As mentioned in another comment already: what about a Quick Start telling people where they can get what they want? <img src='http://zonker.opensuse.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>For example:<br />
* apparmor.opensuse.org<br />
* bugzilla.novell.com<br />
* crashdb.opensuse.org<br />
* education.opensuse.org<br />
* forums.opensuse.org<br />
* lists.opensuse.org<br />
* lizards.opensuse.org<br />
* news.opensuse.org<br />
* software.opensuse.org<br />
* <a href="http://www.opensuse.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.opensuse.org</a><br />
* zonker.opensuse.org<br />
* &#8230;</p>
<p>Another example:<br />
* How to find apparmor profiles?<br />
* How to get updates for their distribution?<br />
* How to get support?<br />
* How to get the latest (KDE/GNOME/whatever) software?<br />
* How to find/subscribe to a mailinglist?<br />
* How to find support in the forums?<br />
* How to become an openSUSE member?<br />
* How to join/talk to people in IRC (channels?)?<br />
* &#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on What Belongs on &#8220;Announce&#8221;? by Lars</title>
		<link>http://zonker.opensuse.org/2009/03/16/what-belongs-on-announce/comment-page-1/#comment-841</link>
		<dc:creator>Lars</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 20:13:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just an idea that for sure needs more brainstorming - but first start with the background.

People installing openSUSE for the first time get the "well known popup" during their first login - OK. We tell people that they should create an account on opensuse.org to participate in the wiki, bugzilla, forums, ... We invite them to many places of opensuse.org - and even I didn't know every subdomain like:

* &lt;a href="http://apparmor.opensuse.org" rel="nofollow"&gt;apparmor.opensuse.org&lt;/a&gt;,
* &lt;a href="http://crashdb.opensuse.org" rel="nofollow"&gt;crashdb.opensuse.org&lt;/a&gt; or
* &lt;a href="http://lizards.opensuse.org/" rel="nofollow"&gt;lizards.opensuse.org&lt;/a&gt;
* ...

Looks like openSUSE developers again and again fall into the trap creating lots of tools and ideas without informing their users about the great stuff they do. (Sidenote: what about a list of such subdomains with their background information in the weekly news? -&gt; Zonker, please drive this ;-)

Now: we have already a page called &lt;a href="http://users.opensuse.org/" rel="nofollow"&gt;users.opensuse.org&lt;/a&gt;, what about enhancing this as a central place for users to manage their openSUSE account and get more informations if they want? 

For example:
* general mailinglist subscription management
* subscription to specialized newsletters (weekly news, updates for their distro, announcements, ...) they are currently send via opensuse-announce, perhaps we can deliver them also separately, if the moderators of opensuse-announce "tag" them?
* location management (think about "openSUSE people in your neighborhood, if people can add and search GEO-Information
* hermes integration (for developers manly, but better to have it here IMO)
* trust system integration
* ...

Perhaps this is something for openfate.opensuse.org (next subdomain candidate ;-) - perhaps this should be discussed on opensuse-project@opensuse.org, first. What do you think?

With kind regards - and happy easter
Lars</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just an idea that for sure needs more brainstorming - but first start with the background.</p>
<p>People installing openSUSE for the first time get the &#8220;well known popup&#8221; during their first login - OK. We tell people that they should create an account on opensuse.org to participate in the wiki, bugzilla, forums, &#8230; We invite them to many places of opensuse.org - and even I didn&#8217;t know every subdomain like:</p>
<p>* <a href="http://apparmor.opensuse.org" rel="nofollow">apparmor.opensuse.org</a>,<br />
* <a href="http://crashdb.opensuse.org" rel="nofollow">crashdb.opensuse.org</a> or<br />
* <a href="http://lizards.opensuse.org/" rel="nofollow">lizards.opensuse.org</a><br />
* &#8230;</p>
<p>Looks like openSUSE developers again and again fall into the trap creating lots of tools and ideas without informing their users about the great stuff they do. (Sidenote: what about a list of such subdomains with their background information in the weekly news? -&gt; Zonker, please drive this <img src='http://zonker.opensuse.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Now: we have already a page called <a href="http://users.opensuse.org/" rel="nofollow">users.opensuse.org</a>, what about enhancing this as a central place for users to manage their openSUSE account and get more informations if they want? </p>
<p>For example:<br />
* general mailinglist subscription management<br />
* subscription to specialized newsletters (weekly news, updates for their distro, announcements, &#8230;) they are currently send via opensuse-announce, perhaps we can deliver them also separately, if the moderators of opensuse-announce &#8220;tag&#8221; them?<br />
* location management (think about &#8220;openSUSE people in your neighborhood, if people can add and search GEO-Information<br />
* hermes integration (for developers manly, but better to have it here IMO)<br />
* trust system integration<br />
* &#8230;</p>
<p>Perhaps this is something for openfate.opensuse.org (next subdomain candidate <img src='http://zonker.opensuse.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> - perhaps this should be discussed on <a href="mailto:opensuse-project@opensuse.org">opensuse-project@opensuse.org</a>, first. What do you think?</p>
<p>With kind regards - and happy easter<br />
Lars</p>
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