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	<title>Comments on: Discussing openSUSE 11.2 schedule</title>
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		<title>By: ZRC</title>
		<link>http://zonker.opensuse.org/2008/12/15/discussing-opensuse-112-schedule/comment-page-1/#comment-819</link>
		<dc:creator>ZRC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 21:02:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If 8 month or more time will make KDE better, I could wait... Also It would good that all updates graphical card, wifi and so on, could get from one repository source (not, like now, I need choose Nvidia or other) And sometimes installing this drivers KDE crashing.  
Also I don`t like how to need set network connections  (ubuntu 8.10 has better, also win 2000/xp. Windows vista made it worser, but all settings that I need to set is &#039;compact&#039; form.) problems is to understood where I need put DNS servers, where to uncheck DHCP. If we using wifi I need find the same thing, I need to set protection, but how {trying one way, other trying}. If I have an hidden network. It will not work or I need to doo something else?!
Try to make it easy to use, stable (one repository or some where to find all latest (that is tested) updates, drivers, other packages. At this moment I could get red lines, about issure with packages installed (they are old (need to update) or   your other program will not work if you update or downgrade {something like that it shows})</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If 8 month or more time will make KDE better, I could wait&#8230; Also It would good that all updates graphical card, wifi and so on, could get from one repository source (not, like now, I need choose Nvidia or other) And sometimes installing this drivers KDE crashing.<br />
Also I don`t like how to need set network connections  (ubuntu 8.10 has better, also win 2000/xp. Windows vista made it worser, but all settings that I need to set is &#8216;compact&#8217; form.) problems is to understood where I need put DNS servers, where to uncheck DHCP. If we using wifi I need find the same thing, I need to set protection, but how {trying one way, other trying}. If I have an hidden network. It will not work or I need to doo something else?!<br />
Try to make it easy to use, stable (one repository or some where to find all latest (that is tested) updates, drivers, other packages. At this moment I could get red lines, about issure with packages installed (they are old (need to update) or   your other program will not work if you update or downgrade {something like that it shows})</p>
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		<title>By: Xtigyro</title>
		<link>http://zonker.opensuse.org/2008/12/15/discussing-opensuse-112-schedule/comment-page-1/#comment-813</link>
		<dc:creator>Xtigyro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 20:51:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I vote only for 2.6.28, if 11.1 Remastered version is released! ext4 and KDE 4.2.1 should wait, they are not ready for everyday bug-free use.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I vote only for 2.6.28, if 11.1 Remastered version is released! ext4 and KDE 4.2.1 should wait, they are not ready for everyday bug-free use.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon</title>
		<link>http://zonker.opensuse.org/2008/12/15/discussing-opensuse-112-schedule/comment-page-1/#comment-812</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 18:26:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In principle I find the 8 month cycle good - the impression from the 11.1 release was that it was rushed and the release candidate was not really tested.

However, many notebook users will be disappointed with the long wait for an actual kernel with the latest drivers.

I would welcome a remastered openSUSE 11.1 with the 2.6.28 kernel (and perhaps ext4 and KDE 4.2.1). This would be really good as interim solution…</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In principle I find the 8 month cycle good &#8211; the impression from the 11.1 release was that it was rushed and the release candidate was not really tested.</p>
<p>However, many notebook users will be disappointed with the long wait for an actual kernel with the latest drivers.</p>
<p>I would welcome a remastered openSUSE 11.1 with the 2.6.28 kernel (and perhaps ext4 and KDE 4.2.1). This would be really good as interim solution…</p>
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		<title>By: Felipe Alvarez</title>
		<link>http://zonker.opensuse.org/2008/12/15/discussing-opensuse-112-schedule/comment-page-1/#comment-772</link>
		<dc:creator>Felipe Alvarez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 21:13:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>STABLE STABLE STABLE. People are sick of openSUSE coming out with GREAT reviews, stunning PR, and then they find it riddled with BUGZ!!!! Make it 6,7,8,9,10,11,12 month release cycles. Just stop releasing buggy openSUSE!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>STABLE STABLE STABLE. People are sick of openSUSE coming out with GREAT reviews, stunning PR, and then they find it riddled with BUGZ!!!! Make it 6,7,8,9,10,11,12 month release cycles. Just stop releasing buggy openSUSE!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: easgs</title>
		<link>http://zonker.opensuse.org/2008/12/15/discussing-opensuse-112-schedule/comment-page-1/#comment-769</link>
		<dc:creator>easgs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 16:41:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I vote for the &quot;Annual Release with more time for Development &amp; Testing&quot;

one of the advantages of linux over windows is that you don`t have to format your pc very often, but if you have a 6 months release you will have to do it anyway, so</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I vote for the &#8220;Annual Release with more time for Development &amp; Testing&#8221;</p>
<p>one of the advantages of linux over windows is that you don`t have to format your pc very often, but if you have a 6 months release you will have to do it anyway, so</p>
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		<title>By: Avdhesh</title>
		<link>http://zonker.opensuse.org/2008/12/15/discussing-opensuse-112-schedule/comment-page-1/#comment-758</link>
		<dc:creator>Avdhesh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 13:08:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi

I vote for 9 month release cycle.Stable and robust is better than feature rich but buggy operating system.
Regards
Avdhesh</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi</p>
<p>I vote for 9 month release cycle.Stable and robust is better than feature rich but buggy operating system.<br />
Regards<br />
Avdhesh</p>
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		<title>By: Xtigyro</title>
		<link>http://zonker.opensuse.org/2008/12/15/discussing-opensuse-112-schedule/comment-page-1/#comment-757</link>
		<dc:creator>Xtigyro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 13:01:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with you. It&#039;s getting slower and slower. 

If you compare Win XP and openSuSE 11.1 (Intel x86_64 dual core processor = 4800+, 1 GB RAM), mm you cannot hide the obvious truth... 

The good thing is that Vista is far more slower than openSuSE.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you. It&#8217;s getting slower and slower. </p>
<p>If you compare Win XP and openSuSE 11.1 (Intel x86_64 dual core processor = 4800+, 1 GB RAM), mm you cannot hide the obvious truth&#8230; </p>
<p>The good thing is that Vista is far more slower than openSuSE.</p>
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		<title>By: NomadeWolf</title>
		<link>http://zonker.opensuse.org/2008/12/15/discussing-opensuse-112-schedule/comment-page-1/#comment-752</link>
		<dc:creator>NomadeWolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 15:54:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I vote for the nine month release cycle.
I think OpenSuSE 11.1 is buggy. It can&#039;t even install my graphic drivers without problems (i have never had this problem with previous distros). Also Desktop Efects don&#039;t work correctly (another problem i didn&#039;t). My wireless don&#039;t work (another one i had never experienced before)... You get the point...
So i certainly vote for the longer release cycles.
Also i think SuSE should be a smaller distro, its getting bigger and slower, and the reason i like Linux better than windows is because its smaller and faster, but its changing.
I think that the release schedule sould be planned as needed to deliver an as faster, as smaller and as stable SuSE distro as possible, without never exceeding the early realease cicle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I vote for the nine month release cycle.<br />
I think OpenSuSE 11.1 is buggy. It can&#8217;t even install my graphic drivers without problems (i have never had this problem with previous distros). Also Desktop Efects don&#8217;t work correctly (another problem i didn&#8217;t). My wireless don&#8217;t work (another one i had never experienced before)&#8230; You get the point&#8230;<br />
So i certainly vote for the longer release cycles.<br />
Also i think SuSE should be a smaller distro, its getting bigger and slower, and the reason i like Linux better than windows is because its smaller and faster, but its changing.<br />
I think that the release schedule sould be planned as needed to deliver an as faster, as smaller and as stable SuSE distro as possible, without never exceeding the early realease cicle.</p>
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		<title>By: Zami</title>
		<link>http://zonker.opensuse.org/2008/12/15/discussing-opensuse-112-schedule/comment-page-1/#comment-747</link>
		<dc:creator>Zami</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 23:42:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe we should go for slower release cycles, mostly for the already mentioned reasons. OpenSUSE 11 seemed very unstable and buggy to me, I even thought about downgrading it back to 10.3 after a few days. With a 8-9 month( or more) cycle, there would be much more time for testing and bugfixing which would allow to release a truly usable and stable system.
Furthermore I think we should consider integrating more and better online-update possibillities. Most people find it much more convenient to keep there OS up-to-date by downloading and installing updates compared to the installation of a new version of the distribution, so in my opinion we should work more and more in that direction. On a long-term basis this would certainly work well to gain more (casual) users, if we keep the prosses simple and effective. The problem with Gnome 2.28 could also be easily solved that way, and the development of OpenSUSE would overall become much more flexible and independent.

Greetings from Austria</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe we should go for slower release cycles, mostly for the already mentioned reasons. OpenSUSE 11 seemed very unstable and buggy to me, I even thought about downgrading it back to 10.3 after a few days. With a 8-9 month( or more) cycle, there would be much more time for testing and bugfixing which would allow to release a truly usable and stable system.<br />
Furthermore I think we should consider integrating more and better online-update possibillities. Most people find it much more convenient to keep there OS up-to-date by downloading and installing updates compared to the installation of a new version of the distribution, so in my opinion we should work more and more in that direction. On a long-term basis this would certainly work well to gain more (casual) users, if we keep the prosses simple and effective. The problem with Gnome 2.28 could also be easily solved that way, and the development of OpenSUSE would overall become much more flexible and independent.</p>
<p>Greetings from Austria</p>
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		<title>By: jengelh</title>
		<link>http://zonker.opensuse.org/2008/12/15/discussing-opensuse-112-schedule/comment-page-1/#comment-744</link>
		<dc:creator>jengelh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 19:13:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have really liked to always have something for Xmas (because that&#039;s when people have the most time and fun), and moving away from the 6 month cycle would kinda break that --- unless you are willing to go for a 12 month cycle which I think would be pretty long.
Neutral vote on my side.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have really liked to always have something for Xmas (because that&#8217;s when people have the most time and fun), and moving away from the 6 month cycle would kinda break that &#8212; unless you are willing to go for a 12 month cycle which I think would be pretty long.<br />
Neutral vote on my side.</p>
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