Comments on: openSUSE Sports a New License (Ding dong, the EULA’s dead…)

By: jrdls

jrdls — Wed, 10 Dec 2008 03:36:58 +0000

Beineri I meant, I should have had just called you Stephan, it’s easier to remember.

By: jrdls

jrdls — Wed, 10 Dec 2008 03:33:42 +0000

@Beinieri Thanks for pointing out my mistake. BTW I was wrong too about the add on cd with non-oss.It's bundled!!

By: jrdls

jrdls — Wed, 10 Dec 2008 03:30:49 +0000

thanks for pointing out the correction, didn't know that. BTW, I was wrong too about the add on cd with non-oss. It's bundled!!

By: happy ex-oS-user

happy ex-oS-user — Mon, 08 Dec 2008 07:35:57 +0000

Viva la revolucion!

By: Beineri

Beineri — Sun, 07 Dec 2008 05:42:57 +0000

For people who care about licenses?

By: Beineri

Beineri — Sun, 07 Dec 2008 05:42:10 +0000

Wrong, the retail DVD is dual-layer not double sided.

By: rushman

rushman — Sat, 06 Dec 2008 13:12:35 +0000

This the reason that open suse will never become a major
desktop for the average person.
why use Suse when there is something like Mint 6 64 bit rc1,
everything works from the CD all codecs are there.

I have dual booted ubuntu and Suse for some time as an average
user, I rarely use Ubuntu.I have to ask who is opensuse designed for use by.

Rushman

By: jrdls

jrdls — Fri, 05 Dec 2008 21:25:53 +0000

Sorry mate. The dvd included in the retail box is the same dvd everybody else will download. I think one side comes with the i386 version and the other with the x86_64 version. I believe you pay for the book included with the dvd and for support from novell.
To be honest, the retail box would be more attractive if the dvd were bundled not only with non oss software but also with multimedia codecs (from fluendo, for instance).
However with such a retail box, I would see myself not only agreeing to an EULA (which I wouldn’t mind) but also entering a serial key (In order to prevent me from installing the fluendo codecs in other machines with openSUSE), which, of course, is against the FOSS spirit and would be a violation of the GPL too.
However novell should the effort to create an iso image with non oss software and to include a cd it in the retail box with it. If they create such an iso image but is only available for download, I’ll be glad to play Mark Shuttleworth, I would download it, burn it and mail it to you through fedex for free. We would only have to work out the details.
NOTE: the above offer applies ONLY to my man hotus (because I live in Guatemala and I’m not by all means a wealthy person but I can afford to help someone)

By: ScottW

ScottW — Wed, 03 Dec 2008 00:06:26 +0000

All this fuss over a EULA? Why? Open source software is just that…open source. If you cannot find something that will make your music play, your videos run, or what have you, what options do you have? Download proprietary software or go to Windows or Mac.

There are reasons for the EULA as this keeps the legal types from breathing down your back because you’re listening to your favorite song using proprietary software. With SUSE’s change, you now have the option of either staying clean with your distro or going “dirty” and downloading what you need or want. Agreed, this pertains mostly, if not entirely to the US but how long before that constraint becomes less visible?

From what I’ve read so far, a lot of you are complaining over an update. I can understand if you have no internet. Possibly the secondary CD would be a viable option for those instances.

Outside of that, the complainers of the extra update/download sound like the spoiled child.

I enjoy Linux for what it is, the ability to expand my horizons by exploring. That’s why I like and use openSUSE as well as Ubuntu and Fedora.

By: anon

anon — Mon, 01 Dec 2008 18:55:03 +0000

I object to this part and would like it removed from people who when selecting their country show they aren’t in America

As required by US law, you represent and warrant that you: (a) understand that openSUSE 11.1 is subject to export controls under the US Commerce Department’s Export Administration Regulations (”EAR”); (b) are not located in a prohibited destination country under the EAR or US sanctions regulations; (c) will not export, re-export, or transfer openSUSE 11.1 to any prohibited destination, entity, or individual without the necessary export license(s) or authorizations(s) from the US Government; (d) will not use or transfer openSUSE 11.1 for use in any sensitive nuclear, chemical, or biological weapons or missile technology end-uses unless authorized by the US Government by regulation or specific license; (e) understand and agree that if you are in the US and export or transfer openSUSE 11.1 to eligible end users, you will, as required by EAR Section 741.17(e), submit semi-annual reports to the Commerce Department’s Bureau of Industry & Security (BIS), which include the name and address (including country) of each transferee; and (f) understand that countries other than the US may restrict the import, use, or export of encryption products and that you will be solely responsible for compliance with any such import, use, or export restrictions.