DistroWatch.com: openSUSE 11.0 “most important breakthrough … of desktop Linux usability”
Monday, April 21st, 2008 by ZonkerSome really nice comments about the upcoming openSUSE 11.0 in this week’s DistroWatch weekly newsletter:
Many people expect the upcoming release of openSUSE, version 11.0, to be possibly the most important breakthrough in terms of desktop Linux usability enhancements and user interface updates. One of the magic tools that helps the developers accomplish their goals is openSUSE Build Service (OBS), an infrastructure for building openSUSE packages.
That’s some pretty high praise, there, particularly from someone (Ladislav Bodnar) who has been reviewing and watching Linux development for a very long time.
I’m noting this not to brag on openSUSE, but as a note to openSUSE contributors — all of the hard work you’re doing for openSUSE 11.0 and the openSUSE Build Service has not gone unnoticed. In fact, it looks like people are getting very eager to see what openSUSE 11.0 looks like. I think people are going to be very pleased.


Some beautiful day you’ll notice my switch from Fedora :> .
My work already began:
- packaging
- proposing changes to packaging (probably will land on GNOME-related ml)
- bug reports
- feature requests in bugzilla
This is the kind of positive press that openSUSE needs. I have recently seen many blog posts and news stories declaring that Ubuntu is the defacto Consumer and Home User Desktop Linux desktop. The mainstream is beginning to think this way as well. openSUSE needs to more aggressively go after this position before it is too late.
openSUSE is more user friendly. YaST2 is a bit complicated compared to GNOME tools included in Ubuntu, but same applies for Windows systems - n00b wants help for every system, while little bit more advanced user will learn every system without problems. So openSUSE is better then.
openSuSE is Awesome for usability.
More nice comments from distrowatch this week: http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20080505#news
‘Although Ubuntu 8.04 has attracted a lot of media attention in the last couple of weeks, there is no doubt that the most ambitious distribution release of this quarter will be openSUSE 11.0. ‘
If KDE4 is pushed as the default KDE version, 11.0 will go over like a lead balloon. KDE4 really needs to be put on the back burner until 11.1.
There is nearly unanimous agreement on this on the opensuse@opensuse.org list… the primary dissent being from a few SuSE employees whose statements on the list make it clear that they are hell-bent on make KDE4 the default KDE package, regardless of how un-ready it is.
If 11.0 is set up to install KDE4 as the default version of KDE, there is giong to be SERIOUS damage to SuSE’s reputation (especially among new users)…and even Linux in general…as having a flaky Desktop/Window manager…and among experienced users who will no longer trust the judgement of SuSE’s packaging teams.
Somebody REALLY needs to put an adult in charge of the 11.0 release.
> There is nearly unanimous agreement on this on the opensuse@opensuse.org list
> Somebody REALLY needs to put an adult in charge of the 11.0 release.
Maybe people have to do better things, like fixing bugs, than engaging in troll threads?
So you’re trying to avoid the point that a number of people in SuSE are, on SuSE’s open mailing list, indicating that they’re pushing for not-ready-for-release version of KDE, no matter what damage it might due to both openSuSE’s reputation as well as Linux in general ???
You’re right, I deny to discuss such dumb conspiracy theory.
> If KDE4 is pushed as the default KDE version
There’s no real default now. Both 3.5 and 4.0 are offered equally on DVD install:
http://files.opensuse.org/opensuse/en/thumb/6/68/OS11.0beta2-inst6.jpg/800px-OS11.0beta2-inst6.jpg
There’s only 4.0 available on the live CD, but this is indicated in the filename for the iso as a “warning”.